Daniel 8 Dare to Lament - Revision history

Thefro34: /* Biblical examples of complaints abound. */

2024-03-02T19:46:12Z

‎Biblical examples of complaints abound.

Wakefien: /* God is in control but that doesn't mean bad things won't happen (Daniel 8:15-26). */

2024-02-26T15:16:42Z

‎God is in control but that doesn't mean bad things won't happen (Daniel 8:15-26).

Wakefien: /* There are times when the evil seem to prosper (Daniel 8:1-4). */

2024-02-26T15:16:13Z

‎There are times when the evil seem to prosper (Daniel 8:1-4).

Wakefien: /* Implicit in lament is a request (Psalm 13:3-4) */

2024-02-26T15:15:45Z

‎Implicit in lament is a request (Psalm 13:3-4)

Wakefien: /* God is our loving father. */

2024-02-26T15:15:34Z

‎God is our loving father.

Wakefien: /* Power and conflict even come to effect the ability of God's people to worship God (Daniel 8:9-14). */

2024-02-26T15:07:03Z

‎Power and conflict even come to effect the ability of God's people to worship God (Daniel 8:9-14).

Wakefien: /* There are times when the evil seem to prosper (Daniel 8:1-4). */

2024-02-26T15:05:39Z

‎There are times when the evil seem to prosper (Daniel 8:1-4).

Wakefien: /* The request helps to restore hope. */

2024-02-26T15:00:54Z

‎The request helps to restore hope.

Wakefien: /* The request begins to acknowledge God's sovereignty. */

2024-02-26T15:00:25Z

‎The request begins to acknowledge God's sovereignty.

Wakefien: /* The request begins to acknowledge God's sovereignty. */

2024-02-26T14:59:46Z

‎The request begins to acknowledge God's sovereignty.

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	Ok, at this point, you may have a natural question. "wouldn't it be sin for me to complain to God?" You know, at first that seems like a great question but in reality I think it is answered by a better question. If you have something to say to God that might be sinful isn't it likely that the sin has already occurred in your heart and in realty you need to confess that to God? I really think the answer is that sin begins in the heart and so it is more important to bring it before God than to try to ignore it. We need to bring it to God!		Ok, at this point, you may have a natural question. "wouldn't it be sin for me to complain to God?" You know, at first that seems like a great question but in reality I think it is answered by a better question. If you have something to say to God that might be sinful isn't it likely that the sin has already occurred in your heart and in realty you need to confess that to God? I really think the answer is that sin begins in the heart and so it is more important to bring it before God than to try to ignore it. We need to bring it to God!
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		+	Philippians 2:14 states “ Do everything without grumbling or arguing” the word for grumbling is γογγυσμός, it can be translated as complaining but really carries the idea of “behind the scenes talk”

	===MTR: Determine now to lament instead of grumbling.===		===MTR: Determine now to lament instead of grumbling.===

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-===God is in control but that doesn't mean bad things won't happen (Daniel 8:15-26).===
+===God is in control, but that doesn't mean bad things won't happen (Daniel 8:15-26).===
 God provided Gabriel for Daniel to interpret the dream and tell him the details. The details themselves as we have seen were pretty bad news. Daniel, bad things are going to happen, really bad things. God's people are going to suffer even after you are gone.

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 ==Action Step: When appropriate embrace the opportunity to lament.==
-===There are times when the evil seem to prosper (Daniel 8:1-4).===
+===There are times when the evil seems to prosper (Daniel 8:1-4).===
 Here we have a vision and in this vision Daniel sees a ram. The ram is symbolic of a leader or ruler and the horn of the ram is symbolic of power. The text tells us that no animal could stand against this ram and it did as it pleased. I think the picture we are supposed to see here is one of power and conflict. In the kingdom of animals Daniel sees one rise to the top, a bully if you will. What we will see throughout Daniel 8 is this theme of power and conflict. We live in a world that is marked by power and conflict.

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 ===MTR: Determine now to lament instead of grumbling.===
-==Implicit in lament is a ''request'' (Psalm 13:3-4)==
+==Implicit in lament is a ''request'' (Psalm 13:3-4).==
 ===The request begins to acknowledge God's sovereignty.===
 This is really important and I want you to see what is happening. At first God is addressed. Then complaint is given. Now we have a request. The move from complaint to explicit request is actually a heart change. Really it is.

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 In John 15:15 Jesus tells his disciples "I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you." Relationship matters to God and so much so that God does not view us as a slave but as a friend. Hence, in our suffering we can be honest and transparent with God. So, what is the point. Be honest with God. In fact, you can be more honest with God than you can with anyone else. Why, because God already knows your heart. You are not going to reveal a big bad sin, attitude, disposition, habit, etc. that God does not know about. You will not offend God by telling him how you really feel. God is not going to be surprised. God wants relationship and relationships requires two-way communication. Hence, Lament begins with an address to God.
-===God is our loving father.===
+===God is our loving Father.===
 Jesus, during his earthly ministry addressed God the Father as Abba in Mark 14:36. The word Abba is an Aramaic word and was the word used in simple family speech<ref>TDNT 1.5</ref>. In other words, this is the word that a young child would use to address a father. It is equivalent to our word "daddy."

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 It is sometimes easy for us to acknowledge the evils of the world when they leave us alone. But the reality is that the evils of the world can impact the worship of even God's people. Daniel's vision previewed this for Daniel and history told the tale.
-After the death of Alexander the Great the greek empire was divided among his four generals. But what about the smaller how that came up?
+After the death of Alexander the Great the greek empire was divided among his four generals. But what about the smaller horn that came up and grew in power?
 Antiochus IV Epiphanes was a prominent figure in ancient history, particularly known for his reign as the Seleucid king from 175 to 164 BCE. He was born around 215 BCE and was the son of Antiochus III the Great. The epithet "Epiphanes" means "God Manifest" or "Illustrious," a title he assumed for himself, suggesting a divine status or manifestation.

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 ===There are times when the evil seem to prosper (Daniel 8:1-4).===
-Here we have a vision and in this vision Daniel sees a ram. The ram is symbolic of a leader or ruler and the horn of the ram is symbolic of power. The text tells us that no animal could stand against this ram and it did as it pleased. I think the picture we are supposed to see here is one of power and conflict. In the kingdom of animals Daniel sees on rise to the top, a bully if you will. What we will see throughout Daniel 8 is this theme of power and conflict. We live in a world that is marked by power and conflict.
+Here we have a vision and in this vision Daniel sees a ram. The ram is symbolic of a leader or ruler and the horn of the ram is symbolic of power. The text tells us that no animal could stand against this ram and it did as it pleased. I think the picture we are supposed to see here is one of power and conflict. In the kingdom of animals Daniel sees one rise to the top, a bully if you will. What we will see throughout Daniel 8 is this theme of power and conflict. We live in a world that is marked by power and conflict.
 ===Power and conflict are dominant themes in our world (Daniel 8:5-8).===

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 ===The request helps to restore hope.===
-Have you ever felt like nothing will ever get better? I have. The problem is sometimes we let feelings of "nothing will ever get better" keep us from hope. We can bring requests to God because we know that Gos is in the business of redeeming that which is broken. The act of making a request begins the process of restoring hope.
+Have you ever felt like nothing will ever get better? I have. The problem is sometimes we let feelings of "nothing will ever get better" keep us from hope. We can bring requests to God because we know that God is in the business of redeeming that which is broken. The act of making a request begins the process of restoring hope.
 ===MTR: Commit to bringing your requests before God no matter the circumstances.===

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 This is really important and I want you to see what is happening. At first God is addressed. Then complaint is given. Now we have a request. The move from complaint to explicit request is actually a heart change. Really it is.
-If you are ever mediating a situation or dealing with someone distraught one of the most important things you can do is move them from complaint to request. Questions like: "Ok, I hear all the bad things that you have experienced, but now I want to ask you what would make this better?" are incredibly powerful because they begin to bring the focus onto hope. The further begin to bring the emphasis onto God. Circumstances change but God does not. When we begin to emphasize our God instead of our circumstances we can begin the process of moving suffering into worship.
+If you are ever mediating a situation or dealing with someone distraught one of the most important things you can do is move them from complaint to request. Questions like: "Ok, I hear all the bad things that you have experienced, but now I want to ask you what would make this better?" are incredibly powerful because they begin to bring the focus onto hope. They further begin to bring the emphasis onto God. Circumstances change but God does not. When we begin to emphasize our God instead of our circumstances we can begin the process of moving suffering into worship.
 ===The request helps to restore hope.===